Played the Steam Demo and I didn't know that I needed this to exist!
Love the suspicion mechanic, though I can't say that I understand how the walk-ins work exactly. There were moments where the actions would be red but after saving and reloading the same events multiple times the suspicion results were always different. Sometimes one character would catch us, another time no one would. Incentivizes save-scumming over planning but that's not really a problem imo. (It's also hard to say that a Naughty Doug would be one to plan anyway lol.)
Also, I personally can't enjoy the AI voicework in the steam demo. Once I realized it was AI it was just distracting. This might just be me, but I prefer cheesy real actors to inconsistent if more authentic sounding AI. (I know that sort of thing is expensive but imo a good actor goes a long way.) Ultimately, I'm used to games without VA so if the AI sticks around, I'll likely just turn it off. I'm always willing to give real VA's a shot in games though.
Regardless of my issues, I'm really excited to see this one when it's done and hope all goes well in development.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I personally really like the voicing, but yeah, if that's an issue for you they can be turned off in Settings without losing the music or sound effects. No argument that authentic VAs are far superior!
The red text indicates that the guaranteed risk gain is high, walkins are random though (albeit mediated by a character's suspicion, which makes them more likely to walk in on you). So yeah, while you can shape your odds but the only way to make an action entirely risk free is to develop other character's stats to the point that they're comfortbable with what you're doing.
Ahah! That makes the colors clearer. I feel like it's already explained in the game, and I missed it so thank you for clarifying. Super excited to see the final product.
Very Decent demo but something has got to be done about the VA's.
Some of the lines feel like they're read without any emotion or context for the scene. And the VA for Imogen has a tendency to read out sound effects instead of..well..acting.
Gloria's VA feels flat in almost all her deliveries.
Verity is the only one who gives a consistent performance throughout.
Also maybe an option to disable the male va's all together since while doug's VA gave a funny performance, it takes me out of the scenes sometimes and kills any tension or mood for any of the steamier scenes.
7/10
good proof of concept, lots of room for improvement.
I thought I got all the ‘sound effects’ but I guess not. Gloria’s delivery is kind of ‘as intended’, but maybe that intention was misguided. As a general guide Doug doesn’t talk in sex scenes, but I may make that a harder rule. Thanks for the feedback!
Just to elaborate a bit for some of my feedback, my specific issue.
With Gloria: My guess is for her deliveries was to sound unbothered and casual regarding doug's actions. That's a solid idea, my problem with the execution is often the way some of her lines are delivered don't often match the way they seem to be written when paired with the way her in game model emotes. And can often feel less grounded and stiff..
For Imogen: I Would maybe recommend looking through some audios on the subreddit r/gonewildaudios for examples of how VA's typically read certain sound effects for actions like blowjobs or moans. as well for references to good sound libaries so the game itself can have more sfx for lewd and tame scenes. And some of her line reads during lewd scenes also sometimes feels less intense or more playful than the in game animations would suggest.
Verity I really have no notes for other than sometimes her audio quality sounds a bit muffled compared to the other two. Her acting is actually perfect. Shes very consistent with the way she reads with the voice for her character.
Finally I think some of the music choices during some of the actual sex scenes often clash with the mood. But that I feel is more subjective and down to creative decision than anything.
Thanks for taking the time to read, always appreciate a dev who's open to notes. Really liked the demo and I look forward to following this projects development.
From other reviews, its been made apparent the voices might actually be Ai generated.
Is this true?
If so I would advise getting rid of them all together. There are subreddits and sites like casting call club where you can find VA's willing to do work for low pay or even for free. I would recommend searching there if the voices are intended to stay part of the game. You'll get better performances that way
Since you're seemingly atleast a bit open to recommendations let me give 2 more, I recommend you upload version 0.1 or 0.2 on f95zone to generate more traffic, and to never shrink the mc's dong (since he seems to shrink in some scenes shown in the screenshots Bj...) a netori mc without big dong isn't a netori mc after all.
Well hope you consider it and have a nice day buddy see ya~
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Are the screenshots from the demo or are some of them only in the full game?
I think that just the two where the black girl and the asian girl are getting eaten out are full game. The rest should be in there.
Played the Steam Demo and I didn't know that I needed this to exist!
Love the suspicion mechanic, though I can't say that I understand how the walk-ins work exactly. There were moments where the actions would be red but after saving and reloading the same events multiple times the suspicion results were always different. Sometimes one character would catch us, another time no one would. Incentivizes save-scumming over planning but that's not really a problem imo. (It's also hard to say that a Naughty Doug would be one to plan anyway lol.)
Also, I personally can't enjoy the AI voicework in the steam demo. Once I realized it was AI it was just distracting. This might just be me, but I prefer cheesy real actors to inconsistent if more authentic sounding AI. (I know that sort of thing is expensive but imo a good actor goes a long way.) Ultimately, I'm used to games without VA so if the AI sticks around, I'll likely just turn it off. I'm always willing to give real VA's a shot in games though.
Regardless of my issues, I'm really excited to see this one when it's done and hope all goes well in development.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I personally really like the voicing, but yeah, if that's an issue for you they can be turned off in Settings without losing the music or sound effects. No argument that authentic VAs are far superior!
The red text indicates that the guaranteed risk gain is high, walkins are random though (albeit mediated by a character's suspicion, which makes them more likely to walk in on you). So yeah, while you can shape your odds but the only way to make an action entirely risk free is to develop other character's stats to the point that they're comfortbable with what you're doing.
Ahah! That makes the colors clearer. I feel like it's already explained in the game, and I missed it so thank you for clarifying. Super excited to see the final product.
Very Decent demo but something has got to be done about the VA's.
Some of the lines feel like they're read without any emotion or context for the scene. And the VA for Imogen has a tendency to read out sound effects instead of..well..acting.
Gloria's VA feels flat in almost all her deliveries.
Verity is the only one who gives a consistent performance throughout.
Also maybe an option to disable the male va's all together since while doug's VA gave a funny performance, it takes me out of the scenes sometimes and kills any tension or mood for any of the steamier scenes.
7/10
good proof of concept, lots of room for improvement.
I thought I got all the ‘sound effects’ but I guess not. Gloria’s delivery is kind of ‘as intended’, but maybe that intention was misguided. As a general guide Doug doesn’t talk in sex scenes, but I may make that a harder rule. Thanks for the feedback!
I appreciate you hearing folks out!
Just to elaborate a bit for some of my feedback, my specific issue.
With Gloria: My guess is for her deliveries was to sound unbothered and casual regarding doug's actions. That's a solid idea, my problem with the execution is often the way some of her lines are delivered don't often match the way they seem to be written when paired with the way her in game model emotes. And can often feel less grounded and stiff..
For Imogen: I Would maybe recommend looking through some audios on the subreddit r/gonewildaudios for examples of how VA's typically read certain sound effects for actions like blowjobs or moans. as well for references to good sound libaries so the game itself can have more sfx for lewd and tame scenes. And some of her line reads during lewd scenes also sometimes feels less intense or more playful than the in game animations would suggest.
Verity I really have no notes for other than sometimes her audio quality sounds a bit muffled compared to the other two. Her acting is actually perfect. Shes very consistent with the way she reads with the voice for her character.
Finally I think some of the music choices during some of the actual sex scenes often clash with the mood. But that I feel is more subjective and down to creative decision than anything.
Thanks for taking the time to read, always appreciate a dev who's open to notes. Really liked the demo and I look forward to following this projects development.
No worries, thanks for the reference and advice!
From other reviews, its been made apparent the voices might actually be Ai generated.
Is this true?
If so I would advise getting rid of them all together. There are subreddits and sites like casting call club where you can find VA's willing to do work for low pay or even for free. I would recommend searching there if the voices are intended to stay part of the game. You'll get better performances that way
Yeah, sorry it wasn't clear, I thought it was obvious.
Highly recommend you change the tag to "Netori" not ntr otherwise the people that would want to play this game won't find it.
Done!
Hoho, you show speed
Since you're seemingly atleast a bit open to recommendations let me give 2 more,
I recommend you upload version 0.1 or 0.2 on f95zone to generate more traffic,
and to never shrink the mc's dong (since he seems to shrink in some scenes shown in the screenshots Bj...) a netori mc without big dong isn't a netori mc after all.
Well hope you consider it and have a nice day buddy see ya~
Genuinely hilarious. Looking forward to more.